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Hi Josh,

Maybe I missed something, but how do I get stacked fractions to work when I am doing Inch/Fraction dims? I was changing them from Drawing to Inch/Fractions, and I got the large font fractions.

You can set that in the properties and stacked also works when using inch fracs with the 'drawing' setting. Look under Settings > Scale Type.

I had deleted my previous post because I thought I had misunderstood what you were trying to do.

Okay - thanks! I will look for that setting.

When DataCAD is running but with no drawings open - it sure would be great to be able toggle the Layer Manager off/on - without having to open a drawing.

A related to this, if I have the LM persistent, it would be nice to have it "go behind" the active other program.

Neil Blanchard wrote:When DataCAD is running but with no drawings open - it sure would be great to be able toggle the Layer Manager off/on - without having to open a drawing. A related to this, if I have the LM persistent, it would be nice to have it "go behind" the active other program.

It does 'go behind' acvtive other program in 22.02.05.05 beta, I haven't checked previous versions.

I'm curious how would having the LM open with no drawing open be helpful? Is it because you have to reboot if you change the persistence?

Neil Blanchard wrote:When DataCAD is running but with no drawings open - it sure would be great to be able toggle the Layer Manager off/on - without having to open a drawing.

Second That!

Neil Blanchard wrote:A related to this, if I have the LM persistent, it would be nice to have it "go behind" the active other program.

Not sure if I fully understand your wish, but as Joseph mentioned, other programs should be able to draw over Datacad / Layer Manager if they are the active program or were at some point. It won't jump behind all open programs at once when any other program is selected, but will follow Windows draw order based on when the last windows / programs were active. Or are you asking for something different?

Joseph Baron wrote:I'm curious how would having the LM open with no drawing open be helpful? Is it because you have to reboot if you change the persistence?

I think it's more about being able to close the Layer Manager if there are no drawings open.

joshhuggins wrote:I think it's more about being able to close the Layer Manager if there are no drawings open.

I like to learn how others work in DataCAD whenever possible and that sometimes triggers my curiosity...

Why not just minimize DataCAD?

I should add some particulars, maybe? I have the LM set to be kept open, and it is separate outside the DataCAD window, on a second monitor. If I have DataCAD running but now drawings open, and I have other programs open - they go in front of the main DataCAD window (as they should) but the LM stays in front of everything.

And I can't just close the LM if I don't have a drawing open. If another program is open "over" the main DataCAD window, then having the LM over things is kinda' weird. If the LM acted like the SB does, that would be great.

Neil Blanchard wrote:I should add some particulars, maybe? I have the LM set to be kept open, and it is separate outside the DataCAD window, on a second monitor. If I have DataCAD running but now drawings open, and I have other programs open - they go in front of the main DataCAD window (as they should) but the LM stays in front of everything.

That sounds like it's not working right. I wonder if we might have a INI setting that differs. If you want to upload your INI file I can use UltraCompare to compare the two files and see if a difference might be related? It's a great little tool, became familiar with it after learning about their main product UltraEdit from Mike Smith's & Richard Morse's Official Datacad Users Guide 9.0. Man that was a great book! LOL, just looked it up on Amazon, and you can get a used copy for $1.36 or a new copy for $109.79. Hope the boys are getting a cut of that check still.

Mike Smith's & Richard Morse's

Now there's a couple of names I haven't heard much for a while. I never met Mike, but it was Ric who recruited me to work for DataCAD (which I only ended up doing for a few months). I believe Mike is now the owner of Signature Architects (and presumably still using DataCAD ), but I sometimes wonder where Ric has ended up...?

dhs wrote:

Mike Smith's & Richard Morse's

Now there's a couple of names I haven't heard much for a while. I never met Mike, but it was Ric who recruited me to work for DataCAD (which I only ended up doing for a few months). I believe Mike is now the owner of Signature Architects (and presumably still using DataCAD ), but I sometimes wonder where Ric has ended up...?

I remember these as well. Mike featured some of my work on the front and back cover of his book- https://www.amazon.com.au/Official-Data ... 0071363564 .....a bit of nostalgia.

Neil Blanchard wrote:...then having the LM over things is kinda' weird. If the LM acted like the SB does, that would be great.

I would vote for this as I think it's a better solution making external DataCAD windows operate the same.

I happen to work at Signature Architects, where Mike Smith is one of the partners. But it has been a long time since I have heard Rick's name, for sure.