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#79862 by jenn0123
Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:36 pm
This may be a long shot but I'm looking to see if anyone has a spare USB Hardlock Key for Datacad 9. Even though we've purchased newer versions, my mom still prefers Datacad 9 and the printer port Hardlock it came with is becoming an issue :). I know for a while Datacad was replacing the printer port Hardlock with the USB key but we missed the window and they don't have any left.

If anyone knows any other workarounds I'd be open to that too!
#79864 by joshhuggins
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:00 pm
If it doesn't work out finding a Hardlock key, those newer versions you have, including even up the the latest version 22 can be setup to almost be identical to older versions like v9. If you need help getting a newer version setup to mimic v9, let us know here on the forum, we should be able to get you there.
#79872 by melina
Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:44 pm
I have one and you are welcome to it. Contact me directly and we'll see what we can do to get it to you!
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#79873 by dhs
Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:33 pm
I think jenn0123 was looking for a USB version of the hardlock due to the lack of suitable ports for the old dongle on most recent computers.
There are USB to Serial conversion devices on the market, but I would not guarantee that they would work with the old dongle (they may, but I have my doubts).

Even if you find a USB dongle, you may find that the drivers provided by DataCAD have issues with Windows 10 on your new computer: The information on DataCAD's Hardware Key Driver Update page says that the updated drivers support Windows 2000, XP, Visa and 7 (and there has not been any update since then).

In a google groups discussion from a few years ago Carl Steidel noted that the driver worked on his desktop running Windows 10 but not on his laptop. My own experience is that the DataCAD drivers do not work on Windows 10. In the above group thread there was discussion of alternative drivers that some found to work and may be worth investigating.

I hope you find a USB hardlock, but just be aware that you may need to also source alternate drivers or install Windows 7 on your new computer to be able to use it.

Regards,
David H.
#79874 by melina
Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
My mistake, I misread. I was thinking that the existing parallel port hardlock itself was acting up and another working one was a viable option.
#79876 by dhs
Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:05 pm
... and I've just assumed that the reason the old hardlock is becoming an issue is due to a new computer without serial ports. If the issue is that the hardlock itself is failing then she may appreciate your offer.
The main aim of my post was to warn that a USB dongle may not alone be enough to solve the issues under Windows 10. ... Josh's suggestion of configuring a later version is likely the easiest solution.
#79877 by jenn0123
Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:16 pm
Thanks so much for your responses. Yes, our parallel port hard lock still works (for now) but as you said, we have struggled with the parallel port to USB converters, although have been able to get it to work with Windows 10 through various herculean efforts :).

The reconfiguring a new version to look old is an intriguing one so if we can't scrounge up the USB Hardlock we may try that (and I may be back for more advice :)).

Thank you!
#79938 by jenn0123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:37 am
I think we are going to give it a try to set up a newer version to operate like v9.

@joshhuggins are there any instructions you (or anyone else) has seen on how to do that? We have v12 already so were going to try that first before investing in v22 but would be open to trying v22 if we can get it to work on v12.

Thanks!
#79939 by joshhuggins
Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:50 am
jenn0123 wrote:I think we are going to give it a try to set up a newer version to operate like v9. @joshhuggins are there any instructions you (or anyone else) has seen on how to do that? We have v12 already so were going to try that first before investing in v22 but would be open to trying v22 if we can get it to work on v12.
Are you able to get a screenshot of the setup on v9? That would give me a good place to start on what need to be done.

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