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Hello,

I have been having XRefs not appearing on the screen, and it may be related to using GTV Link. This morning, I opened the building floor plan file that has each of the room plans XRef'd in, and when I first opened it, it was fine. I think switched to a GTV of a different floor, and then reopened the GTV of the 22nd floor - and 4 of the XRefs do not appear.

I then when done the list in the RFM and reselected the GTV in each XRef that I want to show in the building plan, and they reappear.

Ah, the XRefs that were not showing up were some of the rooms that are nested XRefs - and the refreshing was not "pushing" through to the nested plans.

To explain: all the plans we are calling "normal" are native in their own files, and then about 3/4's of those are XRef'd into the mirrored version of those room types. Then the building plan is using XRefs of both the "normal" rooms and the mirrored rooms, which are the nested XRefs that were "resisting" being refreshed.

Sometimes this happens if somehow the GTV Link in the xref manager get's turned off for an xref. This I think has to be set for each xref individually.
But when you turn it back on, it does remember the GTV links.

Hi Roger,

That is the first thing I checked - and all the XRef's have GTV Link toggled on.

Roger D wrote:Sometimes this happens if somehow the GTV Link in the xref manager get's turned off for an xref.

Not to hijack the thread, but has anyone been seeing the GTV Link turned off automatically after it was set to on before? We seem to be doing something here that turns off GTV Link at random and can't put a finger on why it gets turned off sometimes.

Josh,

I have not seen that, at least not that I can remember. I am still learning how well the GTV Link works - and this is the first project that I have used it on, since X3; because of a problem it had back then.

When I erase a xref by mistake, and then ctrl-z to udo, the GTV link is turned off, but when turned back on, all the GTV liniks work.

Roger D wrote:When I erase a xref by mistake, and then ctrl-z to udo, the GTV link is turned off, but when turned back on, all the GTV liniks work.

Ahhh that's probably it Roger, I snag xrefs all the time and undo an erase on them. Maybe Big Dave can fix that up for us? Having the xrefs loose their GTV link is kind of a big deal for us. Thanks guys!

Roger D wrote:When I erase a xref by mistake, and then ctrl-z to udo, the GTV link is turned off, but when turned back on, all the GTV liniks work.

Fixed for the next build.

Dave

Thanks Dave. FYI, I went to tell a co-worker about this getting fixed and he said it's happening to xrefs on locked layers as well, which couldn't have been erased/undone. So there might be another glitch somewhere also.

joshhuggins wrote:Thanks Dave. FYI, I went to tell a co-worker about this getting fixed and he said it's happening to xrefs on locked layers as well, which couldn't have been erased/undone. So there might be another glitch somewhere also.

Josh,

Please ask him to try and localize what sequence of functions causes this to happen. Without being able to reproduce the problem here, it's akin to a software bug snipe-hunt.

I have the same problem here in 15 and since it still happens in 17 then another way I lose the link is if I have a wall section which is a clipped xref of the building section and use insertion point in MSP layout the GTV link gets turned off. And when that happens the nesting toggle also changes back to on.

Dan M

dmartens wrote:I have the same problem here in 15 and since it still happens in 17 then another way I lose the link is if I have a wall section which is a clipped xref of the building section and use insertion point in MSP layout the GTV link gets turned off. And when that happens the nesting toggle also changes back to on.

Hmm, I can't seem to make it happen following those steps Dan. Anyone else?

Dave

Of course neither can I now. If I remember the dwg it was happening in I will re-post. And sorry for the mistake but it was a self-xref of the bldg. section I used for the wall section. Thanks.

Dan M

dmartens wrote:Of course neither can I now. If I remember the dwg it was happening in I will re-post. And sorry for the mistake but it was a self-xref of the bldg. section I used for the wall section. Thanks.

Dan:

If you can find the drawing in which it was happening or can cause it another drawing, please forward the file to help@datacad.com so I can have a look at it. On occasion, little niggles like this can be drawing dependent due to corrupt data somewhere.

Regards,
Dave

dmartens wrote:Of course neither can I now. ...

You know my baby isn't going to misbehave when I'm watching!

Dave