Thanks Roger, I did do the 3D hide first up, but you are still left with squillions of lines. All the curved bits turn to small lines. I was left with the alternative of moving some lines to another layer or lots of deletes. I opted for deletes. Also, I deleted all entities on a line of symmetry, sorted that and then mirror copied the remainder, and then grouped it all. Was a bit tedious buy it is all done now. 2D Gym Equipment symbols anyone?