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Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:03 pm
by joshhuggins
I want to remove the leading space from millimeter dimensions so they read a little tighter, so 150.00 mm would read 150.00mm I've tried searching the forum on this but couldn't find what I thought I had previously read on it.

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:18 am
by REX PEET
Josh

You could use the AS 1100 scale and you would have "150" or 11 345. Get rid of the units altogether?

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:05 pm
by Mark Bell
Hello Rex,
Another option could be to change the text's Aspect so in a particular instance it is condensed to fit the space you need?

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:07 pm
by Mark Bell
...oops! last post should have been to Josh.
Also, do you need to display the 'mm' as drawings done in metric automatically assume they are in mm (parts of Europe is cm)?

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:45 pm
by joshhuggins
Thanks for the ideas guys. They do need to stay in mm and labeled as such because the project is a mixed unit project (metric and imperial) and we are actually double dimensioning everything with imperial on top and mm on the bottom. I could have swore I has seen a discussion a couple of years ago where either one of the language translators for was instructed to revise a file to help with this or something similar. Don't really want to adjust the aspect ratio that much either. We will just make it work as is if it's not possible to remove that space. Thanks again guys!

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:49 pm
by Mark F. Madura
Can you do it with suffix?

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:17 pm
by joshhuggins
Mark F. Madura wrote:Can you do it with suffix?
We did try that actually combined with turning off the units, but there are hundreds of dimensions and there isn't an easy way to change them all easily, at least that I could find. Thanks for the idea though Mark.

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:35 pm
by Dave
joshhuggins wrote:Thanks for the ideas guys. They do need to stay in mm and labeled as such because the project is a mixed unit project (metric and imperial) and we are actually double dimensioning everything with imperial on top and mm on the bottom. I could have swore I has seen a discussion a couple of years ago where either one of the language translators for was instructed to revise a file to help with this or something similar. Don't really want to adjust the aspect ratio that much either. We will just make it work as is if it's not possible to remove that space. Thanks again guys!


mm to 2 decimal places required.. you getting into building some nano houses :lol: :lol:

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:43 am
by Mark Bell
...actually, Dave you have a point - I don't know of any project for a building that requires 2 dp precision~! Must be a bloody good builder :)
Josh - have you considered just showing whole numbers without d.p., ie. 150 mm as this would give you the extra space you need and be consistent with metric dimensioning (even if you need to include units)?

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:01 pm
by joshhuggins
LOL, teeny tiny houses :lol: Actually it is a series of steel platforms for biomass electric generators. Parts of the steel frames are prefab and designed with feet/inches. The generators and their associated equipment are in mm and have precision down to 2 places.

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:09 pm
by Mark F. Madura
Unfortunately, unlike ft and in, m, cm, and mm have a hard-coded space built-in.

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:08 pm
by Mark Bell
Well there you go - mystery solved~!

With the hard-coding for metric, in reality when we write 150mm or 10m etc. there is no space between the number and unit added. It would be rare to see a gap. But either way, 10m or 10 m, it's still clear on the intent.

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:34 pm
by Nick Pyner
I can't believe what I'm reading, but there was a little boy who summed this circus up perfectly

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:36 pm
by Nick Pyner
This isn't a DataCad problem, it's a management problem.

For starters the last time I heard of documents stupid enuff to be in mixed dimensions was for the Hubble telescope. I believe it only cost them 10 billion dollars to send a crew up there to fix it because of that.

And for seconds, it might be a good idea to think about what is to be built - a building, or a new Rolex. In architecture, dimensions to 10mm should suffice, and I submit that any documentation with dims ending other than 0 or 5mm is a pretty clear sign of incompetence. And an architect letting a job out the door with mm to two decimal places would/should be the laughing stock of the entire building industry - " Bloody architects, they don't know what they are doing - as usual". It would be richly deserved, and may well put the price up also.
We dimension in millimetres to AS1100 but virtually everything ends with a 0. I understand this is the result of fiat from the Australian Metric Conversion Board, and the Royal Australian Institute of Architects were too wimpy to resist. From what I see, the Europeans have been using cm since the time of Napoleon, and the above is the reason why.

For the metrically challenged, the insecure, the paranoid, and the herders of dinosauers, DataCad steps up and offers the possibility of measuring and drawing in imperial, and then at the push of a button produce an entirely new copy but dimensioned in what the rest of us patronisingly call "soft metric". Jeez, isn't DataCad just wunnerful? but, even then, mm to two decimal places? Fair suck of the sauce bottle....

Re: Millimeter unit space

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:35 am
by joshhuggins
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