Josh I was wrong. I was looking in the wrong place. It was under symbol tools. No it is not clicked. Yesterday I revised the same symbol 4 times and each time it failed to be stay revised. I had the same problem in another drawing where the symbols changed from one drawing to another. In that case I think it was reacting to symbols in the drawing it self with the symbol file changing instead of the symbols in the drawing. I think it might be the case in my current drawing. How do I get the symbol file to stay and the drawing get updated? Should I have auto reload turned on so all other symbols in the drawing are updated to the revised one?