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#79902 by Mark Bell
Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:24 am
Mark F. Madura wrote:
New_Batch_Printing_Setup_External.png

(External) Batch Printing Setup Dialog

Here's the 'External' Batch Printing Setup Dialog. The Master PDF Filename you set here will be the name of the document that contains the output from all of the files in the 'set'.


Will there be an option to save the print drawing set where a series of external files have been loaded? This would save having to reload all the various drawings again when updates are due for printing, instead just load the SET file. You might also consider allowing multiple SET files to store various drawings which would allow a building to be broken down into the various components as per the drawing register then each can be stored and loaded and re-loaded as required for each round of updates and printing.
#79903 by Mark F. Madura
Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:29 am
Mark Bell wrote:Will there be an option to save the print drawing set where a series of external files have been loaded?

Hi Mark,

You can do this now. Once you've added the external files to batch print, you can select Save As... to create a '.SET' file which can be used to load previously selected files. For the enhanced version, I've expanded the SET file to include the state of the other dialog options so you won't have to re-set them each time you load a new SET file.

MFM
#79904 by Mark Bell
Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:04 pm
Mark F. Madura wrote:
Mark Bell wrote:Will there be an option to save the print drawing set where a series of external files have been loaded?

Hi Mark,

You can do this now. Once you've added the external files to batch print, you can select Save As... to create a '.SET' file which can be used to load previously selected files. For the enhanced version, I've expanded the SET file to include the state of the other dialog options so you won't have to re-set them each time you load a new SET file.

MFM


Thanks Mark - that's great as it will also allow multiple projects to be worked on with each plot list loaded for printing as required.
#79910 by The Canuck
Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:54 pm
I saw the option to collate.. hurray!!!!! It is becoming less and less that I print, but when I do it seems to be multiple sets and this is going to save a lot of time. Thank you Mark!!!!
#79934 by Mark F. Madura
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:28 am
Question About Duplicate Names
The Batch Printing interface does not currently have any error checking for duplicate names. For example, the 'External' Batch Print Dialog allows you to load a SET file more than once, creating duplicate entries. If you're printing to PDF or PLT, files that are printed more than once will 'step' on previously saved files. I suppose if you're printing to a device, this would work, but why not just set Copies > 1?

Now that you'll be able to override the default naming convention; [Drawing Name-][Sheet ][Layout Name], there will be a greater opportunity to set the out filename to the same name in multiple files. If they are batch printed in the same session, the last layout printed will 'step' on the previous. Should this cause an error message?

It's possible to have duplicate GoTo View and MSP Sheet names. Should there be error handling for these conditions?

What about batch printing two drawings that have the same name, but are from different directories? The default output names would more likely be the same resulting in one of the files getting overwritten.

If you're diligent about names, you probably won't have any issues along these lines, but I'd like to get a better idea of what your expectation are.

Thank You,

MFM
#79935 by Roger D
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:53 pm
While I might have similar drawing names, they all have the project number prefix, so I don't foresee having a duplicate name issue.

For those that might, couldn't you use a similar check that you have when inserting layers, a duplicate gets an (#) added to the end?
#79940 by Roger D
Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:52 pm
Will there be a way to drag order MSP between different drawings in the external batch plot dialog?
i.e.
Drawing 1 - Sheet A1.1
Drawing 2 - Sheet A1.2
Drawing 3 - Sheet A2.1
Drawing 2 - Sheet S1.1
#79941 by Mark F. Madura
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:25 pm
Roger D wrote:Will there be a way to drag order MSP between different drawings in the external batch plot dialog?
i.e.
Drawing 1 - Sheet A1.1
Drawing 2 - Sheet A1.2
Drawing 3 - Sheet A2.1
Drawing 2 - Sheet S1.1

In this scenario, are you printing one sheet per drawing?
#79942 by Mark F. Madura
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:34 pm
Roger D wrote:While I might have similar drawing names, they all have the project number prefix, so I don't foresee having a duplicate name issue.

For those that might, couldn't you use a similar check that you have when inserting layers, a duplicate gets an (#) added to the end?

I could certainly auto-increment filenames but you could end up with duplicates that have different names. Merged into a single PDF, there would be duplicate pages. This is one of the reasons I'm reluctant to 'allow' this without a warning or to disallow it altogether.
#79943 by Roger D
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:56 pm
Mark F. Madura wrote:
In this scenario, are you printing one sheet per drawing?[/quote]

No, you will note that Drawing 2, has both Sheet A1.2 and Sheet S1.1
In this project I have 4 drawing files, but 7 final sheets.
Also plotting to pdf files and combining into 1 final set.
#79944 by Mark F. Madura
Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:40 pm
Roger D wrote:
Mark F. Madura wrote:
In this scenario, are you printing one sheet per drawing?


No, you will note that Drawing 2, has both Sheet A1.2 and Sheet S1.1
In this project I have 4 drawing files, but 7 final sheets.
Also plotting to pdf files and combining into 1 final set.[/quote]
Ah, I see that now. :oops:
This feature won't be included in this round of enhancements but I'll ponder how I might implement it in a future update. In this version, you can certainly order the drawings, but the order of the sheets is determined by the order you set in the corresponding drawing. :roll:

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