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To all,

I've had some circumstances on the current project whereby I've religiously grouped certain items & when revisited for editing/moving etc I've found they have mysteriously become ungrouped, to much annoyance..

Apart from doing something fundamentally wrong, I just can't figure out why this is happening. The only thing I can remember last time was moving a whole sectional profile to another layer. I'm aware when you copy stuff you can keep groups, which I do for grouped items.

Any ideas what could be the cause of this little annoyance will be most appreciated.

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Further to the above, I confirm grouped items become ungrouped when moving to another layer. I'm sure they remained grouped before, but will bow to any DataCAD experts who can shed some light on this.

Over & out,
Clayton.

Clayton,

I too am having the same problem. I am working on a renovation project and instead of erasing existing conditions, I simply move the existing items to a demo layer. Every time I move groups to the demo layer, I am even selecting the items using groups, the group becomes broken. I hope someone can answer this.

I believe that this may be fixed in the next update - but DC LLC would have to confirm or deny that.

If it truly is a "bug" I hope it is fixed soon.

It is, in fact, corrected in the next update.

Dave

Clayton,

Until this bug is fixed, you can use the clipboard select and cut and paste the entities. Your groups will be maintained. Just toggle to the layer you want to move the entities to.

Glad to help.

hi guys I just noticed this comment, ive been having a grouping problem for a while now after several updates since V16. im on the latest V17.02 now.
im having a problem when moving by group on THE SAME LAYER , have asked datacad but nothing forth coming. to their defence its difficult to explain but some how a layer or several layers get contaminated at some stage and the grouping is lost.
other layers in the same drawing don't have the problem. I can copy the information to a new layer and the groups remained grouped but if I do anything on the contaminated layer the grouping is lost.
I thought it was me or my mouse or computer but it seems others out there may be having the same problem.
IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MOVING BY GROUP TO ANTHER LAYER which was I believe was fixed in the latest update.
the problem is MOVING BY GROUP on THE SAME LAYER, a contaminated layer. its a pain in the butt. excuse the expression, but it is frustrating even an arrow gets separated from its head when moved , lines of text get ungrouped . I have tried to recreate each function that I do in a drawing but cannot narrow it down. it just happens sometimes and at random , not all layers or not all drawings have the problem. I sent the drawing to a colleague down the road who uses datacad and he had the problem with the specific layer in my drawing on his computer, but none of his drawings seem to get this problem.
I think its truly a gremlin lurking in there somewhere. I don't think you can call it a bug because its not consistent
sorry to rave on but if you find a solution let me know cheers
Gregg

If it's only on specific layers I would force save the file, copy all the contents of the layer in questions to the clipboard, create a new layer paste the contents on the new layer by Absolute Zero to make sure they align their self, and then delete the layer in question, then close and save the drawing. If you have any issues deleting the bad layer I would use the File, Purge tool to create a new purged file.

thanks for the reply I do actually cut and paste to fix the problem, but how can I avoid the problem in the first place.
its a pain !! copy and paste to new layer, delete old layer then update GTVs. then update each plot sheet with new GTV used in the plot sheets. then do this several layers, have a coffee to calm down waste time and stress checking you have not missed a layer or an update in the process.
if not all users have this problem whats different with my installation of DCAD.
I don't like to winge but jeeeeeze somebody help.

thanks

Can the array function (copy-array) also retain grouping of the copied items as it used to. Thanks.