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#76453 by mfmanuel
Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:12 am
I realize I am not using DataCAD to its full potential so bear with me. I usually produce construction documents on 24x36 borders most plans are at 1/4"=1'-0" scale. If I have larger scale drawings or details I just reduce my border accordingly. I have a GC who wants to print sets reduced to 11x17 sheets and still be to 1/8" scale in addition to the full size. I know I am missing something big with the borders thing can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Matt
#76476 by Mark Bell
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:18 pm
Hi Matt,
You can save the drawings to a PDF, then the end user can print them out at whatever paper size their printer supports. Alternatively, if you set the drawings up in MSP, (at 1:1 actual size), the Setup for printing allows you to output from actual size to another size, even if you don't have that specific printer/plotter, ie. place your original A1 (whatever the US equivalent is), then output to A3 or A4 size using Check Print - this can be to PDF or directly to a printer.
If the contractor wants to print the full size set at a reduced paper size (most likely to save printing costs), either they will have to accept the reducing scaling including text size etc. or you will have to redo every sheet using the smaller sheet size, which will probably increase the number of drawings in the total set.
#76484 by mfmanuel
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:38 pm
Mark Bell wrote:Hi Matt,
You can save the drawings to a PDF, then the end user can print them out at whatever paper size their printer supports. Alternatively, if you set the drawings up in MSP, (at 1:1 actual size), the Setup for printing allows you to output from actual size to another size, even if you don't have that specific printer/plotter, ie. place your original A1 (whatever the US equivalent is), then output to A3 or A4 size using Check Print - this can be to PDF or directly to a printer.
If the contractor wants to print the full size set at a reduced paper size (most likely to save printing costs), either they will have to accept the reducing scaling including text size etc. or you will have to redo every sheet using the smaller sheet size, which will probably increase the number of drawings in the total set.


Thank you for responding Mark! This is what I was looking for. I have never tried to use MSP before, I will try to find a tutorial on that. I already save plot files to .PDF files, but as you know the file will only print to scale as the file was was saved. Any "shrink to fit" paper sizes will throw off the scale. If I can create a reduced scale .PDF (like 1/8"=1'-0") from the same drawing using MSP that would be very helpful. Any pointers to get started on this would be appreciated. Thanks again!
Matt
#76488 by Mark Bell
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:15 pm
Hi Matt,

Have a look in the Help/Reference Manual and search multi-scale plotting. Cheap Tricks also did a number of articles years ago. I've included one off Google below. MSP is pretty easy and straight forward to use and you don't have to use all the commands to get benefit from it as some offer more advanced features you may not need straight away. The main point to remember with MSP, is everything you place on the sheet is at real scale, including the title sheet - all you do is scroll up/down to change to printing scale prior to placing the detail on the sheet. Once all your details and corresponding print scales are done, then you know what text size for each detail to use so the printed output has text at a consistent size.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... A7Ivlolz6S

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